Guess the grade with a twist- 1857 $3 Gold
The twist on this coin is that it was submitted under the new PCGS Secure Plus grading. So two parts to the answer- what is the grade and did it get a "+" from PCGS? From the PCGS site: "If PCGS designates a coin as a Plus, it has in our opinion multiple characteristics that place it in the top 10-15% of all coins in its grade."
Some members here are members at another site where they will have already seen this coin, so if you already know the answer please don't post it. The white mark next to the I in United is just a reflection off the plastic.
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Permalink Reply by True Money on -
I am inclined to say MS62 to MS63, but I will have to view it on my monitor at home. PCGS does not assign "+" to MS60, MS61, and MS62 grades. The marks on the reverse however, may have lowered the grade below MS.
Tricky! Tricky!
-True Money!
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Permalink Reply by Buffalo on -
"Tricky" is OK, I have been called much worse and probably deserved it at times. This, however, is just good old clean and innocent fun, lol.
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Permalink Reply by Steve W on -
Their is evidence of wear on the hair curls and the headdress on the obverse. The reverse and the obverse show lots of hairline scratches which leads me to suspect cleaning. The photo seems to have been photo shopped to the extent that I cannot tell luster. I would give this an EF 40 at best! This could also be a "Genuine" body-bag special.
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Permalink Reply by Buffalo on
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The only photo edit done was to crop the photos, adjust the exposure a little brighter, and adjust the saturation a little to try to get the color more accurate. The obverse photo is pretty close, the reverse photo has more of a red/orange tint than the coin actually has, at least on my monitor. Both of these photos were taken thru plastic though, not just of the coins actual surfaces.
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Permalink Reply by Steve W on
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I have always wanted a good example of this series. Their is something about the "Princess" that attracts me. The reverse, however, seems a pedestrian design without flair. I might try to get an AU 50 plus as a winter project.
Please be assured that I am not disparaging your images here. I am just having trouble grading from what was presented.
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Permalink Reply by Buffalo on
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I understand Steve. As I said, I am not happy with the images I have been getting lately either and I think the solution is going to be to replace my camera. The photos are getting more and more inconsistent without moving anything, changing lighting, or camera settings. The camera is 6+ years old and has taken many thousands of photos so I can't complain.
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Permalink Reply by Buffalo on
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Here is the answer on this one. I am not going to do any more unless I can get better photos to post, which has really been a challenge lately.
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Permalink Reply by Steve W on
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Well,
I feel good about my prediction. Perhaps I can do some grading on my own. I am still wondering about the scratches. Perhaps they were on the slab's plastic surface?
Buff, cash out one of those Gold Buffalo coins and buy a fancy lens. TM knows all about that. Life is short. Spend it now. LOL
Buffalo said:Here is the answer on this one. I am not going to do any more unless I can get better photos to post, which has really been a challenge lately.
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Permalink Reply by Buffalo on
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I am getting ready to do just that Steve as far as a new camera, but I am keeping the gold for now. As a good friend of mine said a few days ago "Now is not the time to sell" and I agree with him, lol. There were no scratches on the slab, any marks had to be on the coin. Keep in mind the age on this one and that it was a circulation coin, so again marks won't necessarily kill a grade. This coin is a century older than me and I have some wear and tear too and probably wouldn't grade as well.
Seriously I am just in the early stages of deciding what to get. I need to decide how best to balance cost with what I want to be able to do. The problem is I always want to do more things after I buy anything than I thought I would before I bought it.
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