Guess the Grade - 2011-W Silver Eagle
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I know many of you have seen the grades I posted for these from the 25th Anniversary Set graded by PCGS. I have something on my lens or in my camera that shows a spot in the same place. You will see this spot on each coin on the left side in each image. Please disregard this spot as it is not on the coin. Sorry if each coin appears different. They were taken at different times, but with similar lighting conditions under the exact same lights. I received 1 grade in MS68 and 4 in MS70. I have included an obverse and reverse image of the coin in MS68 and one of the MS70s. Can you tell which coin is MS68 and which one is MS70?
Try your best at this one. Good Luck!
-True Money!
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Permalink Reply by Gary on -
First one is the 68 and the second on is the 70! I would suspect the 68 received that grade because of the reverse!! Possible rim ding above the S in states?? Hard to judge with out the actual coin in hand?
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Permalink Reply by True Money on -
Just to clarify on your response Gary, that is not a ding on the rim. It is part of the slab casing and is not part of the coin.
-True Money!
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Permalink Reply by True Money on
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Haha! Well, let's see what others think and why before I reveal the answer.
-True Money!
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Permalink Reply by Bruce Wiseley on -
#1 is the 70, and #2 the 68. WTF, I have a 50/50 shot, which is why I'm a Doc, and not a grader, lol. The color of #1 looks better??
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Permalink Reply by True Money on
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Hahaha!
-True Money!
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Permalink Reply by Clair Alan Hardesty on -
For me, the state of the rim doesn't enter into grading any more than the state of the reeding does. By that a I mean that a minor rim ding would not prevent a coin from getting a 70 grade. Before giving my grades, I would like to make a few observations about the coins. First, the small spot east of the U in UNITED made me believe that both coins came from the same die pair but on close inspection, it is not in the same position and doesn't appear to be on the coin at all. Second, the top coin appears to be a later die state based mostly on the appearance of shine, probably caused by die wear, mostly on the reverse, especially the shield and the area above the stars. Both coins appear to have full strikes, the top one perhaps slightly sharper than the lower coin. I don't see any defects of any kind on either coin. The shine on the top coin prevents me from assigning it a 70, but only drops it to 69 in my opinion. The slight weakness of the strike on the bottom coin (most noticeable to me on the flag) drops it from 70 as well, below the top coin but not as far as 68 so I give both coins an MS69. If I were grading fast and with the naked eye, both could easily have been assigned 70s but I don't think that either coin really deserves it. A couple more points: professional grading is done very quickly and usually with the naked eye and we all usually want to spend much more time and use a loupe or other magnifier; I normally wouldn't even consider these images good enough for grading, I like to use 1MP or better images for each coin face and the highest possible JPEG image quality (or better yet, a lossless format). Grading from pictures always has the issue of "is what looks like a ding on the coin real or an artifact?" so I took the approach that the dark spot on each coin face was an artifact, but even if not, none are enough to drop the grades to 68s. The bottom coin has everything it needs for perfection but just misses on the strike and the top coin would be perfect if not for the less than stellar eye appeal probably a result of die wear.
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Permalink Reply by True Money on
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I thought you would notice the spots Clair. There must be a piece of dust in my camera because it appears on all of the images in the same place. it is on the obverse photos mixed within the rays of the sun. I am not surprised at the mixed responses so far. I will reveal in another day or so.
-True Money!
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Permalink Reply by True Money on
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Oh ok! Here we go. The top is the 68 and the bottom is the 70.
-True Money!
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